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Anti Fascist Book Club | How to Be An Antiracist - Body

Nick and Tara work through Kendi's "Body" chapter, from Bill Clinton's 1995 speech on "white fear" to police-shooting data, the case of Kohen Wiley, and why we have a criminal punishment system.

Book In Review

After a week off, Nick and Tara returned to Ibram X. Kendi’s How to Be an Antiracist with Chapter 6, “Body.” Nick opened with Kendi’s two definitions: a bodily racist idea is “any notion that a group of racialized bodies is more animal-like and violent than others,” while a bodily antiracist idea is one that is “humanizing, deracializing and individualizing nonviolent and violent behavior.” He then read the page-79 passage on President Bill Clinton’s Oct. 16, 1995, speech in Austin, delivered the same day as the Million Man March, in which Clinton said “Blacks must understand and acknowledge the roots of white fear in America.” Nick used the passage to argue that bodily racism is a systemic, bipartisan problem rather than one party’s. Tara framed the chapter around policy: if racial inequality were natural, she said, it would not take so many laws to maintain it, and she pointed to the dilution of majority-Black districts in Southern States as a current example.

The middle of the hour turned on Kendi’s numbers. Nick read the page-82 passage noting that Black people make up 13% of the U.S. population but accounted for 26% of people killed by police in 2015, when the Washington Post began logging every fatal police shooting, and 24% in 2020; unarmed Black people, Kendi writes, are more than three times as likely to be killed as unarmed white people. Nick connected the chapter to the Mississippi attorney general’s finding that a Senatobia officer’s use of force was justified in the death of 1-year-old Kohen Wiley during a shoplifting call. He also read Kendi’s page-88 rejection of President Trump’s “war zones” framing and the note explaining why Kendi calls it the “criminal punishment system,” and tied that to local backlash against surveillance vendors like Flock and Axon. Tara traced the same pattern through Bacon’s Rebellion, the GI Bill’s exclusion of Black service members from home buying, and school funding through property taxes. She closed the segment with Sgt. Isaac Woodard Jr., the Black World War II veteran blinded by a police chief hours after his honorable discharge, whose attacker was acquitted after 30 minutes of deliberation.

The final stretch answered a commenter’s charge of “white guilt.” Nick said the chapter is about responsibility, not guilt, and offered an image for it: rights are not a pie that shrinks when others get a slice, but a balloon that expands for everyone. He read Kendi’s page-90 contrast of the three responses: segregationist ideas call for more policing and incarceration, assimilationist ideas call for “tough love,” and antiracist ideas recognize that Black people “don’t need surveillance, policing and prisons” but higher-paying jobs within reach. Tara added that not having created a problem does not erase a responsibility to the present.

The discussion also featured a video from Marine veteran Jerrod Zisser on the Veterans Day Democracy March, planned for Nov. 11, 2026, in Washington, D.C., with Veterans Fighting Fascism and the Unite for Veterans Coalition; Nick stressed that attendees do not need to be veterans. Nick and Tara closed by urging everyone to vote early, bring a friend, and sign up for the march.

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